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On the road with Rox and the Nomadic Boys

Rox and the Nomadic Boys talk about:

The meaning of safe travelling for the queer community

Why they love exploring the world

Unforgettable places

Where the best Pride events take place

June marks the start of Pride season worldwide. We invited queer bloggers Roxanne Weijer (Rox) and the couple Stefan and Sebastien, better known as the Nomadic Boys, to our office for a chat. All three of them are constantly travelling all over the world for their blogs. Different reasons led them to swap their everyday lives for the adventure of travelling. However, they share the same goal in blogging about it. In the interview, Rox and the Nomadic Boys explain that it can still be difficult for queer people to find information about safety and the legal situation in some countries. Not every country is queer-friendly, and it’s not always safe to post photos on social media while you’re travelling. However, they also explain why it is important to them not to avoid these countries. Find out where they prefer to go on holiday, how they plan a trip and which Pride events are the most unique.

Roxanne on a journey through sunny Italy.

Hi, I am Roxanne (or Rox) and I come from the Netherlands. After I finished my studies, I travelled around the world with my then girlfriend. We were fully nomadic for three years. Travelling the world as a lesbian couple made me see the world differently. On the road, we started sharing our adventures on Instagram and on the LGBTQ+ website Once Upon A Journey. There weren’t, and sadly still there aren’t, many (online) travel resources for queer women and lesbians. Inspiring other LGBTQ+ travellers and helping them travel around the world safely is still something I do through my Instagram account @roxonajourney. My second great passion is cooking. Whenever possible, I try out new recipes I picked up from my travels. I also share my favourite vegetarian and vegan recipes on my blog Vega Recepten.

We are Stefan and Sebastien, a French/Greek gay couple from London. We met in London back in February 2009. Stefan used to be a lawyer in London; Seby a computer programmer at Bloomberg. We left our lives and jobs in London in 2014 for our big Asia trip and started Nomadic Boys as a blog for our family and friends so they could follow along our trip. Around one year into our trip, we started noticing random people finding our blog – gay men from all over the world were Googling practical things and were stumbling across our blog. We realised that due to the lack of good, up-to-date LGBTQ+ content online, our blog posts started to rank well. What was meant to be a one-year sabbatical in Asia turned into a lifestyle. We’ve now been to over 90 countries, covering each one on our website and on Instagram @nomadicboys. We recently published our first book. Out in the World is a queer travel guide full of tips on the best and safest destinations around the world. Our goal is to inspire queer travellers and help them plan a fun and safe trip.

Stefan (left) and Seby (right) have been traveling the world together since 2014.

Roxanne: In the Netherlands, everyone always seems (or just is) very busy. Their calendars have already been fully booked for months. While traveling, I do things spontaneously all the time. You live day by day, not knowing what might come next. Which I think is exciting!

Stefan and Seby: Discovering a new place is always exciting. It’s fascinating to see how we as people can be so different in basic things like the way we eat, the way we worship, the way we celebrate. Our best travel experiences almost always involve interactions with people.

Roxanne: I love a good combination of fully enjoying the moment by capturing it solely with my own eyes and getting my phone or camera to capture it later. While travelling alone, my tripod is my best friend! It’s a bit bulky to bring and can be a bit heavy, though it’s so worth it if you want to capture all your adventures, experiences and moments with yourself in the picture as well!

 

Stefan and Seby: Today we use our smartphones to capture moments via photos and videos. When it comes to details, Stefan is a geek and loves to record things on the Notes app on his phone, which later becomes the backbone of a blog post for that destination.

Stefan and Seby: Thailand is our happy place, closely followed by Iceland and Bhutan.

 

Thailand: We both love it. It’s the country we return to every year for our Christmas/New Year’s holiday. It ticks all the boxes. First, it’s very gay-friendly – the people are welcoming, no one bats an eyelid at seeing two men together, and we’ve never had a problem booking a hotel bed to share here. It is also set to legalise gay marriage later this year. Then there’s the gay scene in Bangkok. It’s one of the best in Asia (we’d say in the world). 

 

Iceland: Iceland is one of the most gay-friendly nations in the world. Every place you go, even the most rural town, people welcomed us. Tolerance and diversity are woven deep into the fabric of Icelandic society. However, beyond this, Iceland is just magnificent – the landscapes just blow your mind with glaciers, epic waterfalls, fjords – and then there’s the Northern Lights! 

 

Bhutan: We’ve always been fascinated by this hidden Himalayan kingdom between Tibet and India. They got rid of their anti-gay law in 2021 and have been welcoming LGBTQ+ travellers ever since. For years it was cut off from the world and only recently opened up to tourism. It’s the most memorable place we’ve ever been to. 

 

Roxanne: My favourites are Thailand, Mexico and Mongolia! Here’s why.

 

Thailand: I believe I’ve already been to Thailand more than ten times. I simply love the country. The food; the welcoming and kind people (it’s truly the land of smiles). If I could, I would simply book that plane ticket right now to go there and get a local veggie Pad Thai. What’s also important is that I always feel like I can be myself as a queer person.

 

Mexico: I have the same with Mexico. It’s such a diverse country with many places to explore. Whether you want to relax on the beach, adventure in the mountains, try delicious food or explore a super colourful town, it’s all possible. I lived in Mexico City for a few months, which was amazing.

 

Mongolia: I visited Mongolia in 2017, and it’s truly the most unique country I’ve been to. It’s one of the world’s most sparsely populated countries. You can travel for hours (and probably days) without seeing anyone. Maybe things have changed in the last few years, but I hope the country will always stay as authentic as it is.

Miles & More: How important is it for you that a travel destination is queer-friendly?

Stefan and Seby: The extent to which a country is gay-friendly is super important. It dictates everything we do. As gay travellers, we have to conduct that extra layer of research that our straight friends don’t ever need to bother with. We need to check if a country has any anti-gay laws, how conservative society is there, are PDAs (public displays of affection) OK, can we share a double bed in a hotel, are there any queer-friendly spaces, etc. 

We still visit places with anti-gay sentiments because much of the world’s beauty lies in such places. Take the pyramids of Giza in Egypt, for example – a country with a nasty anti-gay law, which is actively enforced by the police who use Grindr (a dating app) to target gay men. We have to carefully research the extent to which we need to go back in the closet before heading off anywhere and make a careful assessment of if we can go or not.

Roxanne: Navigating the world as a queer woman is not always easy. Regarding safety, there is much more to consider than for other, straight travellers. And also, as a female traveller, you have other things to worry about than a male traveller. It is still illegal in over 75 countries to be queer. There are not enough protective laws globally for queer people.

 I am not a fan of boycotting countries and places because I don’t feel that boycotting will help make the world a better place. There are LGBTQ+ people everywhere, also in countries where it’s illegal to be gay. A boycott will only hurt the local LGBTQ+ communities in these places. 

Roxanne: Safety is always super important. Understanding the legal landscape of a country ensures I am aware of potential risks I might face. It allows me to make more informed decisions about where I should go (or not go), what activities to engage in and how to navigate interactions with locals. I recommend doing research on Wikipedia, Lonely Planet, LGBTQ+ blogs and checking the Spartacus Gay Travel Index.

 

Stefan and Seby: In countries with anti-gay laws or strong anti-gay sentiment, we err on the side of caution and avoid posting anything online before and during the trip. 

Spartacus has been publishing the Gay Travel Index every year since 2012. The index measures the legal situation and living conditions for members of the queer community in a total of 213 countries and regions. 

In addition to Malta, which took first place in 2023, Canada, New Zealand, Spain and Portugal rank highly. In a separate ranking of the United States of America, New York State holds first place.

Roxanne: Taiwan is also very queer-friendly. It was the first (and is so far the only) country in Asia to legalise LGBTQ+ marriage. It’s definitely one of the most progressive places in Asia. It’s also one of the very few places in Asia that has anti-discrimination laws based on orientation. Places that are still on my list are Canada, Argentina and Costa Rica.

 

Stefan and Seby: The obvious ones are places like Fire Island or Provincetown in the US, Puerto Vallarta in Mexico. Over in Europe, Gran Canaria, Sitges, Barcelona and Madrid. Most West/North European cities are renowned for their gay-friendliness – in particular Berlin, Amsterdam, London and Lisbon to name a few. Australia and New Zealand are fellow LGBTQ+ trailblazers, as are large swathes of South America, in particular Argentina, Brazil, Colombia and Chile. Meanwhile in Africa, South Africa is gay-friendly, particularly Cape Town and Johannesburg. 

Roxanne: Maybe I am biased, but the Amsterdam Canal Pride is my favourite Pride celebration. And I’ve also enjoyed going to Key West Pride, Berlin Pride, Utrecht Pride, Malmö Pride and Madrid Pride in the past.

 

Stefan and Seby: We love Pride events like Madrid Pride (the second-largest in the world after São Paulo) or carnival events like Mardi Gras in Sydney.

Roxanne: I am planning a hiking trip with my girlfriend in Norway. I will definitely be in Amsterdam during Pride.

 

Stefan and Seby: This summer, we hope to go to EuroPride in Thessaloniki – Greece’s second city. It is a special place for Stefan who spent most of his summers here with his family who live there. To have Thessaloniki host EuroPride is such an honour, particularly in a year when Greece legalised gay marriage.